美国国家公共电台 NPR--If Roe v. Wade is overturned, the Catholic Church is against criminalizing women

If Roe¹ v. Wade² is overturned, the Catholic Church is against criminalizing women

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Archbishop William Lori of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops⁴ talks with Rachel Martin about his call for church followers⁵ to step up care for mothers and babies if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

LEILA FADEL, HOST:

The Catholic archbishop of San Francisco says he will no longer let House Speaker Nancy Pelosi receive Communion because she supports abortion⁶ rights. The decision by Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone was made public over the weekend. And just before that decision was made, our co-host Rachel Martin spoke⁷ with Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore about the church's stance on abortion. Lori chairs the pro-life committee of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

RACHEL MARTIN, BYLINE⁸: At the outset, I think it is important just to establish the church's position on abortion, which is that life begins at conception; abortion is never OK; and there should be no exceptions for rape⁹ or incest. Is that correct?

WILLIAM LORI: The cornerstone of the church's whole social teaching is that human life is sacred from the moment of conception until natural death. The church also teaches that it is important to surround people in difficult circumstances with love, care and necessary services and to create the kind of conditions in society where every person at every stage of life is able to flourish.

MARTIN: Is there anything in that definition I just gave that was incorrect? That life...

LORI: No.

MARTIN: ...Begins at conception; abortion is never OK; and there should be no exceptions for rape or incest.

LORI: That would be essentially¹⁰ correct. But it needs to be contextualized, yes.

MARTIN: Let's work for that context. How do you define the sin that is committed by a woman who has had an abortion?

LORI: Our focus is not on the sin of the mother. Our focus is not on assigning blame. Our focus is walking with moms in need - helping¹¹ them, loving them and saying, can't we do better than taking that unborn life? Can't we bring it into this world and care for it and at the same time care for the mom?

MARTIN: At least one state is considering criminalizing the act of having an abortion.

LORI: And we are not in agreement with that. Never - never have the American bishops or the Catholic Church favored criminalizing women.

MARTIN: So it is your intention to focus more on what you describe as compassionate¹³ care for mothers. Specifically, what services does it encompass¹⁴?

LORI: We are asking bishops, pastors¹⁵ and their co-workers, mostly laywomen, to come to know women in their communities who are facing difficult pregnancies¹⁶ and to find out what their needs are - what are the unmet needs? - and to just help them in a very, very practical way with essential necessities.

MARTIN: These are all things that have existed for a long time in this country.

LORI: Yes.

MARTIN: So what's going to be different?

LORI: It's simply an intensification¹⁷. What we do when there is a new situation is we respond to it. We see the possible overturning of Roe as an opportunity to serve more women.

MARTIN: If I can push you to be specific, is the church going to pay for prenatal care? Is the church going to provide full-time¹⁸, free or subsidized child care for these babies or employment for women who couldn't afford to have a child?

LORI: The church does not claim to be a comprehensive solution to all of those problems. But yes, the church is a very vocal¹⁹ advocate for providing those things and in some instances does provide those things, yes.

MARTIN: You use the word intensification of pre-existing programs. So that is going to cost money. And I want to ask how financially feasible this is. I mean, if you just take Michigan - it's one of more than two dozen states where bans or strict limits on abortion would go into effect if the court overturns Roe. In just one year, 2020, there were 30,000 legal abortions²⁰ there. So if Roe's overturned, there could be, obviously, thousands of unwanted babies. The church, as you know, is already financially strapped²¹ because of the lawsuit²² settlements from the sex abuse crisis. Parishes are closing all over the country. How are you going to come up with the money to care for these babies and their families?

LORI: I would not underestimate the generosity²³ and love of not only Catholics, but so many people of goodwill²⁴. And there are so many people who also would want those babies, who would love to adopt and offer them a chance in life. It's kind of what we're about here.

MARTIN: Some recent polls from reputable, nonpartisan groups, like the Pew Center, indicate that more than half of all Catholics in this country believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases. How does the church reconcile this constant tension between leadership and the people in the pews?

LORI: We've done some polling of our own. What we find is that there is - a solid majority of people in the country think there ought to be some restrictions²⁵ on abortion. We do have some conflicted Catholics. But when Catholics understand the compassionate response of the church and are invited to join in that compassionate response, their view changes.

MARTIN: I heard you mention earlier that the church, from your view, doesn't want to focus on the sin, wants to focus on the help of a mother and child. But there are countless²⁶ women who have had abortions who've been lifelong Catholics who then felt ostracized²⁷ from their congregations.

LORI: And that should never happen. This is not about ostracizing²⁸. This is not about condemning²⁹. This is about loving. This is about compassion¹². And this is about helping women either who are contemplating³⁰ an abortion or those who have had an abortion to move forward in hope and in a better way.

MARTIN: Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore, we appreciate your time. Thank you.

LORI: You're most welcome. Thank you, Rachel.

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1 roe   

n.鱼卵；獐鹿

参考例句：

• We will serve smoked cod's roe at the dinner.宴会上我们将上一道熏鳕鱼子。
• I'll scramble some eggs with roe?我用鱼籽炒几个鸡蛋好吗？

2 wade   

v.跋涉，涉水；n.跋涉

参考例句：

• We had to wade through the river to the opposite bank.我们只好涉水过河到对岸。
• We cannot but wade across the river.我们只好趟水过去。

3 transcript   

n.抄本，誊本，副本，肄业证书

参考例句：

• A transcript of the tapes was presented as evidence in court.一份录音带的文字本作为证据被呈交法庭。
• They wouldn't let me have a transcript of the interview.他们拒绝给我一份采访的文字整理稿。

4 bishops   

（基督教某些教派管辖大教区的）主教( bishop的名词复数 )； （国际象棋的）象

参考例句：

• Each player has two bishops at the start of the game. 棋赛开始时，每名棋手有两只象。
• "Only sheriffs and bishops and rich people and kings, and such like. “他劫富济贫，抢的都是郡长、主教、国王之类的富人。

5 followers   

追随者( follower的名词复数 )； 用户； 契据的附面； 从动件

参考例句：

• the followers of Mahatma Gandhi 圣雄甘地的拥护者
• The reformer soon gathered a band of followers round him. 改革者很快就获得一群追随者支持他。

6 abortion   

n.流产，堕胎

参考例句：

• She had an abortion at the women's health clinic.她在妇女保健医院做了流产手术。
• A number of considerations have led her to have a wilful abortion.多种考虑使她执意堕胎。

7 spoke   

n.（车轮的）辐条；轮辐；破坏某人的计划；阻挠某人的行动 v.讲，谈（speak的过去式）；说；演说；从某种观点来说

参考例句：

• They sourced the spoke nuts from our company.他们的轮辐螺帽是从我们公司获得的。
• The spokes of a wheel are the bars that connect the outer ring to the centre.辐条是轮子上连接外圈与中心的条棒。

8 byline   

n.署名；v.署名

参考例句：

• His byline was absent as well.他的署名也不见了。
• We wish to thank the author of this article which carries no byline.我们要感谢这篇文章的那位没有署名的作者。

9 rape   

n.抢夺，掠夺，强奸；vt.掠夺，抢夺，强奸

参考例句：

• The rape of the countryside had a profound ravage on them.对乡村的掠夺给他们造成严重创伤。
• He was brought to court and charged with rape.他被带到法庭并被指控犯有强奸罪。

10 essentially   

adv.本质上，实质上，基本上

参考例句：

• Really great men are essentially modest.真正的伟人大都很谦虚。
• She is an essentially selfish person.她本质上是个自私自利的人。

11 helping   

n.食物的一份&adj.帮助人的，辅助的

参考例句：

• The poor children regularly pony up for a second helping of my hamburger. 那些可怜的孩子们总是要求我把我的汉堡包再给他们一份。
• By doing this, they may at times be helping to restore competition. 这样一来, 他在某些时候,有助于竞争的加强。

12 compassion   

n.同情，怜悯

参考例句：

• He could not help having compassion for the poor creature.他情不自禁地怜悯起那个可怜的人来。
• Her heart was filled with compassion for the motherless children.她对于没有母亲的孩子们充满了怜悯心。

13 compassionate   

adj.有同情心的，表示同情的

参考例句：

• She is a compassionate person.她是一个有同情心的人。
• The compassionate judge gave the young offender a light sentence.慈悲的法官从轻判处了那个年轻罪犯。

14 encompass   

vt.围绕，包围；包含，包括；完成

参考例句：

• The course will encompass physics,chemistry and biology.课程将包括物理、化学和生物学。
• The project will encompass rural and underdeveloped areas in China.这项工程将覆盖中国的农村和不发达地区。

15 pastors   

n.（基督教的）牧师( pastor的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• Do we show respect to our pastors, missionaries, Sunday school teachers? 我们有没有尊敬牧师、宣教士，以及主日学的老师？ 来自互联网
• Should pastors or elders be paid, or serve as a volunteer? 牧师或长老需要付给酬劳，还是志愿的事奉呢？ 来自互联网

16 pregnancies   

怀孕，妊娠( pregnancy的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• Since the wartime population needed replenishment, pregnancies were a good sign. 最后一桩倒不失为好现象，战时人口正该补充。
• She's had three pregnancies in four years. 她在四年中怀孕叁次。

17 intensification   

n.激烈化，增强明暗度；加厚

参考例句：

• The intensification of the immunological response represents the body's natural defense. 增强免疫反应代表身体的自然保卫。 来自辞典例句
• Agriculture in the developing nations is not irreversibly committed, to a particular pattern of intensification. 发展中国家的农业并没有完全为某种集约化形式所束缚。 来自辞典例句

18 full-time   

adj.满工作日的或工作周的，全时间的

参考例句：

• A full-time job may be too much for her.全天工作她恐怕吃不消。
• I don't know how she copes with looking after her family and doing a full-time job.既要照顾家庭又要全天工作，我不知道她是如何对付的。

19 vocal   

adj.直言不讳的；嗓音的；n.[pl.]声乐节目

参考例句：

• The tongue is a vocal organ.舌头是一个发音器官。
• Public opinion at last became vocal.终于舆论哗然。

20 abortions   

n.小产( abortion的名词复数 )；小产胎儿；（计划）等中止或夭折；败育

参考例句：

• The Venerable Master: By not having abortions, by not killing living beings. 上人：不堕胎、不杀生。 来自互联网
• Conclusion Chromosome abnormality is one of the causes of spontaneous abortions. 结论：染色体异常是导致反复自然流产的原因之一。 来自互联网

21 strapped   

adj.用皮带捆住的，用皮带装饰的；身无分文的；缺钱；手头紧v.用皮带捆扎(strap的过去式和过去分词)；用皮带抽打；包扎；给…打绷带

参考例句：

• Make sure that the child is strapped tightly into the buggy. 一定要把孩子牢牢地拴在婴儿车上。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• The soldiers' great coats were strapped on their packs. 战士们的厚大衣扎捆在背包上。 来自《简明英汉词典》

22 lawsuit   

n.诉讼，控诉

参考例句：

• They threatened him with a lawsuit.他们以诉讼威逼他。
• He was perpetually involving himself in this long lawsuit.他使自己无休止地卷入这场长时间的诉讼。

23 generosity   

n.大度，慷慨，慷慨的行为

参考例句：

• We should match their generosity with our own.我们应该像他们一样慷慨大方。
• We adore them for their generosity.我们钦佩他们的慷慨。

24 goodwill   

n.善意，亲善，信誉，声誉

参考例句：

• His heart is full of goodwill to all men.他心里对所有人都充满着爱心。
• We paid ￡10,000 for the shop,and ￡2000 for its goodwill.我们用一万英镑买下了这家商店，两千英镑买下了它的信誉。

25 restrictions   

约束( restriction的名词复数 )； 管制； 制约因素； 带限制性的条件（或规则）

参考例句：

• I found the restrictions irksome. 我对那些限制感到很烦。
• a snaggle of restrictions 杂乱无章的种种限制

26 countless   

adj.无数的，多得不计其数的

参考例句：

• In the war countless innocent people lost their lives.在这场战争中无数无辜的人丧失了性命。
• I've told you countless times.我已经告诉你无数遍了。

27 ostracized   

v.放逐( ostracize的过去式和过去分词 )；流放；摈弃；排斥

参考例句：

• He was ostracized by his colleagues for refusing to support the strike. 他因拒绝支持罢工而受到同事的排斥。
• The family were ostracized by the neighborhood. 邻居们都不理睬那一家人。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》

28 ostracizing   

v.放逐( ostracize的现在分词 )；流放；摈弃；排斥

参考例句：

29 condemning   

v.（通常因道义上的原因而）谴责( condemn的现在分词 )；宣判；宣布…不能使用；迫使…陷于不幸的境地

参考例句：

• The government issued a statement condemning the killings. 政府发表声明谴责这些凶杀事件。
• I concur with the speaker in condemning what has been done. 我同意发言者对所做的事加以谴责。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》

30 contemplating   

深思，细想，仔细考虑( contemplate的现在分词 )； 注视，凝视； 考虑接受（发生某事的可能性）； 深思熟虑，沉思，苦思冥想

参考例句：

• You're too young to be contemplating retirement. 你考虑退休还太年轻。
• She stood contemplating the painting. 她站在那儿凝视那幅图画。