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访谈录 2010-06-16&06-20 姐就是长的胖,怎么了吧-

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We're here at the Great Hall at the Cooper Union which, as you may know, is an esteemed1 college in lower Manhattan. And we're here to debate the "F" word. It is a 3-letter word that's thrown around often like a four-letter word. We're talking F-A-T fat, and the question of the moment is: Is it OK to be fat? But I'm not here to ponder this question alone. I have a panel of experts, as I'd like to call them, um, here to discuss it with me. It's a loaded question, ladies. I'm gonna start by introducing the panelists. We’ll start with Maryann Kurby. She is the leader of the Fat Acceptance Movement. She believes that fat women should not be ashamed or mean for that matter, that we should all accept our bodies the way that they are, no matter what size, without judgment2. Over on this side we have Meme Roth. She is head of the National Action against Obesity3. Obesity runs in Meme's family. She will tell you she does not believe that fat and healthy can go in one sentence together. She also believes that the cost of obesity to society is out of control. Immediately to my right is Christol Rin who I've interviewed before. She is a successful model. She started modeling at size zero. She dieted her weight to an eating disorder4 and a slew5 of health problems, and is now the highest-paid, plus-size model in the world. So she has a lot of opinions on this topic. And then over here to my left is Kim Benson, she has spent a lifetime yo-yo dieting, tip the scales of 347 pounds, right? And she has changed her health by losing a lot of weight and, oh, changing cholesterol6 levels. Oh that, she believes that fat and healthy are oxymoron.
So before we begin, let me get a little bit of sense of the audience here, what we're thinking. How many of you actually think of yourselves as fat? Show hands. That's kind of a lot of hands, right? And how many of you think that is a good thing? A similar show of hands. OK, we've stacked the back here I can see, we've got ringers in the audience. And so how many of you would like to be called fat? Not a raiser. Interesting. So this is part of the provocative7 debate that we're gonna have tonight. And the question at the moment is: Is it OK to be fat? So let's get a sense of where our panelists stand. Meme, let me start with you. Is it OK to be fat?
It's not OK to be fat when we realize that in almost every case being over-fat is a result of habitual8 improper9 eating. Obesity ravages10 the body. There's an untold11 cost of human suffering, and there's a financial burden to all of us, not just the person who have eaten themselves into obesity.
But is there a way to be fat and healthy?
Not if you have feet, hips12 and knees, not if you have endocrine system, and not if you have an arterial system.
Maryann, you would respectfully disagree?
Like I have feet, and absent knees it's very exciting. I...
I'm sure that all the peters find the results of your weight on those hips and they don't think it's very exciting.
Actually no, I'm actually a very healthy person. It's kind of amazing. I'm far healthier now than I ever was when I started dieting, you know, at seven and continued for a life time. And…What do you make of the question though? Is it OK to be fat?
I think it is kind of an unfair question, because that's like asking: Is it OK to be anything other than white middle class had a normative mainstream13 body type. I mean it's my body, it's totally OK, it's no one else's business.
I have a question for you. Absolutely. Will you be willing to forfeit14 any payout from an insurance company or Medicare or Medicaid for any medical cost associated with your obesity?
I don't understand why you think that that's even a good thing.
Well, you said it's your body and it's no one else's business. I'm just curious if you'll be willing to forfeit any payout of a sickness associated with your obesity, the Medicare and Medicaid which we all pay for or insurance. I'm just curious, if you would.
I think that Meme is going a little bit of ahead in the debate, which is the idea of sort of the cost of the burden to society of medical expenses, we know that something like 9% of all medical expenses are related to obesity-related diseases. I think that is the topic. But we can get to that in a minute. Why don't we continue with our opening statements, to the extent that we're giving them? And I'll turn to Kim. Is it OK to be fat?
Well, I think first of all you have to define OK, what is "OK" mean?Do they’re permission? Because once we start policing what goes in our mouth, from a legislative15 point, that's very scary. And what is fat? Are you talking about a term that the governments set up? Is it a pound overweight? How long if you carried it? I mean I think that it's very difficult to be overweight and healthy. I think there are exceptions, especially when you're young. There can be exceptions, but I think it takes a toll16 on our body. I speak from experience. But my husband told me I was beautiful when I was 350 pounds. It's not a beauty thing, it's a health thing.
Christal, for your industry, it's very much a beauty thing. Is it OK to be fat?
I think that it's OK to eat well, a balanced diet. I also think it's good to exercise in wherever your body falls, whether that is actually a four or at eighteen, I really think that it's about, you know, the actual healthy eating habits that you have in wherever your body falls. So I believe actually cause I have met people, you know, in my side of things, you know, my division is the plus-size industry. And you know, I meet quite a few women who eat a very healthy, balanced diet and they just happen to be size 18s or 16s even.
But doesn't the fact that you're a plus-size model, say, speak volumes about the fashion industry. Because looking at you doesn't look like a plus-size person to me.
Well, absolutely, I do know that society. When they hire plus-sized model, they have a picture in their mind. But what, in the industry basically, plus-size means is anything above 34 inch, 35 inch, and that goes all the way up to 20. What I'm fighting for is a variety on the runway. I won all different types of women in magazines. Because I think that that's accurate portrait of what women are. And I think that they could look at those magazines and those ads and feel really positive from that, because people are all different sizes. And no matter, you know, if you’re starving yourself, you know, down to be healthy, I don't agree with that. And you know, an interesting point that was brought up earlier was about the hips and the knees, you know, and causing problems when you're obese17. Well, I remember when I've been exercising for eight hours a day, what that did to my hips, was quite amazing, because I found it very difficult to walk down the street.
So you're saying the quest for being thin can be unhealthy as well?
Oh, absolutely. I think it's all about moderation which is my stands.


1 esteemed ftyzcF     
adj.受人尊敬的v.尊敬( esteem的过去式和过去分词 );敬重;认为;以为
  • The art of conversation is highly esteemed in France. 在法国十分尊重谈话技巧。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • He esteemed that he understood what I had said. 他认为已经听懂我说的意思了。 来自《简明英汉词典》
2 judgment e3xxC     
  • The chairman flatters himself on his judgment of people.主席自认为他审视人比别人高明。
  • He's a man of excellent judgment.他眼力过人。
3 obesity Dv1ya     
  • One effect of overeating may be obesity.吃得过多能导致肥胖。
  • Sugar and fat can more easily lead to obesity than some other foods.糖和脂肪比其他食物更容易导致肥胖。
4 disorder Et1x4     
  • When returning back,he discovered the room to be in disorder.回家后,他发现屋子里乱七八糟。
  • It contained a vast number of letters in great disorder.里面七零八落地装着许多信件。
5 slew 8TMz0     
  • He slewed the car against the side of the building.他的车滑到了大楼的一侧,抵住了。
  • They dealt with a slew of other issues.他们处理了大量的其他问题。
6 cholesterol qrzzV     
  • There is cholesterol in the cell of body.人体细胞里有胆固醇。
  • They are determining the serum-protein and cholesterol levels.他们正在测定血清蛋白和胆固醇的浓度。
7 provocative e0Jzj     
  • She wore a very provocative dress.她穿了一件非常性感的裙子。
  • His provocative words only fueled the argument further.他的挑衅性讲话只能使争论进一步激化。
8 habitual x5Pyp     
  • He is a habitual criminal.他是一个惯犯。
  • They are habitual visitors to our house.他们是我家的常客。
9 improper b9txi     
  • Short trousers are improper at a dance.舞会上穿短裤不成体统。
  • Laughing and joking are improper at a funeral.葬礼时大笑和开玩笑是不合适的。
10 ravages 5d742bcf18f0fd7c4bc295e4f8d458d8     
  • the ravages of war 战争造成的灾难
  • It is hard for anyone to escape from the ravages of time. 任何人都很难逃避时间的摧残。
11 untold ljhw1     
  • She has done untold damage to our chances.她给我们的机遇造成了不可估量的损害。
  • They suffered untold terrors in the dark and huddled together for comfort.他们遭受着黑暗中的难以言传的种种恐怖,因而只好挤在一堆互相壮胆。
12 hips f8c80f9a170ee6ab52ed1e87054f32d4     
abbr.high impact polystyrene 高冲击强度聚苯乙烯,耐冲性聚苯乙烯n.臀部( hip的名词复数 );[建筑学]屋脊;臀围(尺寸);臀部…的
  • She stood with her hands on her hips. 她双手叉腰站着。
  • They wiggled their hips to the sound of pop music. 他们随着流行音乐的声音摇晃着臀部。 来自《简明英汉词典》
13 mainstream AoCzh9     
  • Their views lie outside the mainstream of current medical opinion.他们的观点不属于当今医学界观点的主流。
  • Polls are still largely reflects the mainstream sentiment.民调还在很大程度上反映了社会主流情绪。
14 forfeit YzCyA     
  • If you continue to tell lies,you will forfeit the good opinion of everyone.你如果继续撒谎,就会失掉大家对你的好感。
  • Please pay for the forfeit before you borrow book.在你借书之前请先付清罚款。
15 legislative K9hzG     
  • Congress is the legislative branch of the U.S. government.国会是美国政府的立法部门。
  • Today's hearing was just the first step in the legislative process.今天的听证会只是展开立法程序的第一步。
16 toll LJpzo     
  • The hailstone took a heavy toll of the crops in our village last night.昨晚那场冰雹损坏了我们村的庄稼。
  • The war took a heavy toll of human life.这次战争夺去了许多人的生命。
17 obese uvIya     
  • The old man is really obese,it can't be healthy.那位老人确实过于肥胖了,不能算是健康。
  • Being obese and lazy is dangerous to health.又胖又懒危害健康。
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