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访谈录 2010-07-11&07-15 姐就是长的胖,怎么了吧-

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Yes, so there's been a lot of science talk going on, some of which I'm very familiar with, the study that you quote from University of Pittsburgh I'm not familiar with. But I would take issue with your comment about the studies all being funded by the drug companies. The vast majority of information that we have at CDC comes from a study called NHANENS, the National Health And Nutrition Examinations Study which is a government-funded study that applies questionnaires and does examinations, and that's where we get the data about the increasing weight of the population over the time, the increase of weight of children, the rising diabetes1, and the ability to link those two on a population basis. I think the comments that were made that everybody who is obese2 is gonna have problems is not true. There are people who are overweight and obese who will live a long, healthy life and never have a health problem. But the vast majority of people who are obese will develop problems, will develop many of the problems that you experienced. And the good news is that a lot of those things are reversible as weight goes down. I was just in D.C. today for the launch of the White House initiative around obesity3, and I talked with Secretary Sebelius, and Secretary Duncan, and Secretary Vilsack about what they're doing to address obesity, and they were talking about the things that you were talking about, and that you were talking about, about getting physical education into the schools, about getting healthy foods into neighborhoods. And we visited corner stores where there were no fresh foods and vegetables. How do you expect someone to make a healthy choice if there's no choice to be made? So I think there's a lot of agreement around that. But we have to be careful with the science, science can be used ... you can twist science, and we all do it when we've got a point we wanna make, especially when we feel passionate4 about it, but it's really important that you don't look at studies that are funded by a drug company that is invest-interested that you know your data resources (absolutely), and I think you have to be really careful to not use science that can be very inflammatory that can cloud the issue.
If we agree that the greatest resource that any country has is its people, wouldn't it stature5 reason that we would wanna protect that resource? And that being the case we would want to have access to affordable6 healthy foods for all. Physical activity available for safe playing, safe activities for youth and seniors, but more importantly, doesn't that an entire back into the responsibility of the government to go ahead and also to make sure that companies which provide unhealthy options have to help pay for any other types of health diseases, shouldn't they be forced to have to share some of that burden, are you also with the proposed sugary beverage7, soda8 tax?
I think that that goes back to the, the sort of food police legislation that makes me nervous on a societal, sort of personal freedom's level. I mean, I have issues with nanny laws, I don't wanna live in a nanny state that tells me this is good or this is bad, I think that is a much more complex issue. You talked about the food police, and yet nutritional9 labels have proved quite successful, and perhaps helping10 people self-moderate.
I think food labels are one of those things that you either love or you hate. They also encourage a sort of numbers of obsessed11 behavior. But as far as that goes, you sort of butt12 up against the way capitalism13 and our sort of economic business model functions, I think that those businesses are gonna come back and say "Well, we took the risk to be in these areas and it's our, you know, our sort of legal duty to our stockholders to turn as much of profit as we can." And if that mean supersizing stuff so that you pay 34 cents more and we make 34 cents more profit, you know, that's what they're going to do, so I think that the question then becomes a really large one about the way we do business in America. What we talk right now have a tax on sugary items and we don't on non-sugary items, I mean, I don't have a problem, I think there's agencies out there and individuals that are bringing information to the American people that we need. I think it's good to know what's in things that manufacturers aren't telling us. I think the nutritional labels are a guide that is absolutely critical for all of us fat or thin to make healthy choices. I think that it's very really important to be careful with over-legislation and bigger government, but on the other hand, you know there's a fine line, and I think it's really important also to be able to get the information out there to people. I think it's good to put ingredients and things, I mean I have food allergies14, there are certain things that will kill me. What's wrong with the nutritional label to know how much calories are in it?
I think that is place into the numbers obsessed sort of culture that we have, and it want… I need that to stay in a healthy way. I think that goes back to conflating weight and healthy.
I testified on behalf, in support of calorie counts, calorie labeling I mean, which helps people. We found that at Starbuck people will buy about 100 calories less at luncheon15 than they were before. It's that people, it gives them information, people can disregard it, they can do what they want. But I think transparency, corporate16 transparency is a great thing. Let's be honest about it, let's put the information out there, and people do with it as what they will. But where, I just wanna try to answer that question which is a provocative17 one, where do we draw the line? It's reasonable to say risky18 drivers, higher insurance. The actuarial scientists and statisticians are drawing the line, and they say they're signing this amount of risk, thus this cost to certain behaviors, and that's what's driving us, because that's the industry that's setting it.
Crystal has a point she wants to make.
Well, yes, I think that if you're gonna tax soft drinks, which I find, you know, really interesting. I think that why do we have pesticides20 on our apples? Why is it ok that we even have that allowed in this country at all? So I think that's another question, I mean if that's even a consideration which I think is actually absurd, because I think people, you know, should be allowed to make choices for themselves and not be charged because of it, especially when it comes to a drink, like coke, I think, I don't think so. However, I do think that if we're even going to discuss that, why do we even have pesticides on our fruit and our vegetables? And when it comes to the point that was made over there, yes, taxing people because of obesity is insane, because it's a condition that I believe even obesity that you're born with. That is what you were born with, that you have a body set point, and you go on and say, well, we're just gonna charge you extra money, sorry, you were born this way.
Nobody had that set point a few hundred years ago, only there if you did (Of course, they did) Now it's the overwhelming majority. I mean, there just hasn't been that big a genetic22 shift. But what we do know is we consume 300 to 500 excess calories than we did 40 or 50 years ago. And that's where, although you say it's very complicated, eating 300 to 500 more calories a day is a pretty good hint to why we are a lot fatter that we used to be. I just really don't understand. Are you saying that obese people are obese because of genetics, not because of behavior?
I'm saying that there's a lot of things, and there's no one reason. And the argument Can I just ask about you?
Yeah. Are you obese simply because you have an obese gene21 and you don't overeat ‘cause you're talking about eating healthy foods, eating in moderation, exercising, wait a minute, I kinda say it here, and so I'm just asking about you, I'm not condemning23 or making any statements, I just want to know are you the size you are because you overeat, or are you the size you are, you know, overeat, be healthy or junk food or what. Are you the size you are because you're just genetically24 predisposed? Or is it both?
I can totally answer that, I am this size because I dieted for 20 years, Well, dieting doesn't get you to that size.
It does, actually, because it gets you to the point where you lose a little bit of weight and then you regain25, and you usually regain, I think it's like 10% of what you lost, I can't remember the exact statistic19 on that.  I know, I did the same thing.
And so when you go through the cycle of weight gain and reloss and gain and loss and gain and loss, you do wind up at this size. I know, I did, I was bigger than you, a lot! I couldn't have sat here.
I would never be a thin person, I was not before my dieting behaviors and But you are not answering my question.  She's saying that you've given up.
It's not about giving up, it's the thing like I gave up dieting because it was a loser game for me, it made me fatter, it made me incredibly unhealthy, it made me full of self-loathing, and it made me believe every societal message that we have.


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1 diabetes uPnzu     
n.糖尿病
参考例句:
  • In case of diabetes, physicians advise against the use of sugar.对于糖尿病患者,医生告诫他们不要吃糖。
  • Diabetes is caused by a fault in the insulin production of the body.糖尿病是由体內胰岛素分泌失调引起的。
2 obese uvIya     
adj.过度肥胖的,肥大的
参考例句:
  • The old man is really obese,it can't be healthy.那位老人确实过于肥胖了,不能算是健康。
  • Being obese and lazy is dangerous to health.又胖又懒危害健康。
3 obesity Dv1ya     
n.肥胖,肥大
参考例句:
  • One effect of overeating may be obesity.吃得过多能导致肥胖。
  • Sugar and fat can more easily lead to obesity than some other foods.糖和脂肪比其他食物更容易导致肥胖。
4 passionate rLDxd     
adj.热情的,热烈的,激昂的,易动情的,易怒的,性情暴躁的
参考例句:
  • He is said to be the most passionate man.据说他是最有激情的人。
  • He is very passionate about the project.他对那个项目非常热心。
5 stature ruLw8     
n.(高度)水平,(高度)境界,身高,身材
参考例句:
  • He is five feet five inches in stature.他身高5英尺5英寸。
  • The dress models are tall of stature.时装模特儿的身材都较高。
6 affordable kz6zfq     
adj.支付得起的,不太昂贵的
参考例句:
  • The rent for the four-roomed house is affordable.四居室房屋的房租付得起。
  • There are few affordable apartments in big cities.在大城市中没有几所公寓是便宜的。
7 beverage 0QgyN     
n.(水,酒等之外的)饮料
参考例句:
  • The beverage is often colored with caramel.这种饮料常用焦糖染色。
  • Beer is a beverage of the remotest time.啤酒是一种最古老的饮料。
8 soda cr3ye     
n.苏打水;汽水
参考例句:
  • She doesn't enjoy drinking chocolate soda.她不喜欢喝巧克力汽水。
  • I will freshen your drink with more soda and ice cubes.我给你的饮料重加一些苏打水和冰块。
9 nutritional 4HRxN     
adj.营养的,滋养的
参考例句:
  • A diet lacking in nutritional value will not keep a person healthy.缺乏营养价值的饮食不能维持人的健康。
  • The labels on food products give a lot of information about their nutritional content.食品上的标签提供很多关于营养成分的信息。
10 helping 2rGzDc     
n.食物的一份&adj.帮助人的,辅助的
参考例句:
  • The poor children regularly pony up for a second helping of my hamburger. 那些可怜的孩子们总是要求我把我的汉堡包再给他们一份。
  • By doing this, they may at times be helping to restore competition. 这样一来, 他在某些时候,有助于竞争的加强。
11 obsessed 66a4be1417f7cf074208a6d81c8f3384     
adj.心神不宁的,鬼迷心窍的,沉迷的
参考例句:
  • He's obsessed by computers. 他迷上了电脑。
  • The fear of death obsessed him throughout his old life. 他晚年一直受着死亡恐惧的困扰。
12 butt uSjyM     
n.笑柄;烟蒂;枪托;臀部;v.用头撞或顶
参考例句:
  • The water butt catches the overflow from this pipe.大水桶盛接管子里流出的东西。
  • He was the butt of their jokes.他是他们的笑柄。
13 capitalism er4zy     
n.资本主义
参考例句:
  • The essence of his argument is that capitalism cannot succeed.他的论点的核心是资本主义不能成功。
  • Capitalism began to develop in Russia in the 19th century.十九世纪资本主义在俄国开始发展。
14 allergies 2c527dd68e63f119442f4352f2a0b950     
n.[医]过敏症;[口]厌恶,反感;(对食物、花粉、虫咬等的)过敏症( allergy的名词复数 );变态反应,变应性
参考例句:
  • Food allergies can result in an enormous variety of different symptoms. 食物过敏会引发很多不同的症状。 来自辞典例句
  • Let us, however, examine one of the most common allergies; hayfever. 现在让我们来看看最常见的变态反应的一种--枯草热。 来自辞典例句
15 luncheon V8az4     
n.午宴,午餐,便宴
参考例句:
  • We have luncheon at twelve o'clock.我们十二点钟用午餐。
  • I have a luncheon engagement.我午饭有约。
16 corporate 7olzl     
adj.共同的,全体的;公司的,企业的
参考例句:
  • This is our corporate responsibility.这是我们共同的责任。
  • His corporate's life will be as short as a rabbit's tail.他的公司的寿命是兔子尾巴长不了。
17 provocative e0Jzj     
adj.挑衅的,煽动的,刺激的,挑逗的
参考例句:
  • She wore a very provocative dress.她穿了一件非常性感的裙子。
  • His provocative words only fueled the argument further.他的挑衅性讲话只能使争论进一步激化。
18 risky IXVxe     
adj.有风险的,冒险的
参考例句:
  • It may be risky but we will chance it anyhow.这可能有危险,但我们无论如何要冒一冒险。
  • He is well aware how risky this investment is.他心里对这项投资的风险十分清楚。
19 statistic QuGwb     
n.统计量;adj.统计的,统计学的
参考例句:
  • Official statistics show real wages declining by 24%.官方统计数字表明实际工资下降了24%。
  • There are no reliable statistics for the number of deaths in the battle.关于阵亡人数没有可靠的统计数字。
20 pesticides abb0488ed6905584ea91347395a890e8     
n.杀虫剂( pesticide的名词复数 );除害药物
参考例句:
  • vegetables grown without the use of pesticides 未用杀虫剂种植的蔬菜
  • There is a lot of concern over the amount of herbicides and pesticides used in farming. 人们对农业上灭草剂和杀虫剂的用量非常担忧。 来自《简明英汉词典》
21 gene WgKxx     
n.遗传因子,基因
参考例句:
  • A single gene may have many effects.单一基因可能具有很多种效应。
  • The targeting of gene therapy has been paid close attention.其中基因治疗的靶向性是值得密切关注的问题之一。
22 genetic PgIxp     
adj.遗传的,遗传学的
参考例句:
  • It's very difficult to treat genetic diseases.遗传性疾病治疗起来很困难。
  • Each daughter cell can receive a full complement of the genetic information.每个子细胞可以收到遗传信息的一个完全补偿物。
23 condemning 3c571b073a8d53beeff1e31a57d104c0     
v.(通常因道义上的原因而)谴责( condemn的现在分词 );宣判;宣布…不能使用;迫使…陷于不幸的境地
参考例句:
  • The government issued a statement condemning the killings. 政府发表声明谴责这些凶杀事件。
  • I concur with the speaker in condemning what has been done. 我同意发言者对所做的事加以谴责。 来自《现代英汉综合大词典》
24 genetically Lgixo     
adv.遗传上
参考例句:
  • All the bees in the colony are genetically related. 同一群体的蜜蜂都有亲缘关系。
  • Genetically modified foods have already arrived on American dinner tables. 经基因改造加工过的食物已端上了美国人的餐桌。 来自英汉非文学 - 生命科学 - 基因与食物
25 regain YkYzPd     
vt.重新获得,收复,恢复
参考例句:
  • He is making a bid to regain his World No.1 ranking.他正为重登世界排名第一位而努力。
  • The government is desperate to regain credibility with the public.政府急于重新获取公众的信任。
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