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美国国家公共电台 NPR You Can Eat Like Johnny Cash — Thanks To A Cookbook From Country Music's First Family

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About 30-plus years ago, I was right out of college. And I got a job as a disc jockey at a country western radio station in Michigan. And I found out that the great Johnny Cash was coming to play the local county fair. So I hung around his tour bus not knowing if I'd get to talk to him, but he came out.


GONYEA: How you doing, Johnny?

JOHNNY CASH: Hi. How you doing?

GONYEA: Welcome to Monroe.

CASH: Thank you.

GONYEA: I'm from...

It was all kind of on the fly. And at one point, I ran out of questions to ask him. But Johnny Cash seemed to want to hang around and chat. So I came up with this...


GONYEA: How'd you get to be the man in black? Can you tell our people - is there a story behind that?

CASH: Not really. I've always worn black. I've always felt comfortable in it on performing. I felt it had a kind of distinctive1 look. And one reason, it's a little more slimming and...


GONYEA: He was joking, of course. But after flipping2 through the recipes in a new book, "The Cash And Carter Family Cookbook," maybe there was some truth to Johnny saying he wore black because it's slimming. Bologna and eggs, biscuits and gravy3, Cash burgers, the hardy4, homey comfort food of the Cash and Carter family is now featured for all of you to recreate at home thanks to this new cookbook compiled by John Carter Cash. He is the child of June Carter and Johnny Cash and an award-winning record producer. He joins me from his cabin studio in Tennessee. John Carter Cash, thanks for joining us.

JOHN CARTER CASH: I'm so grateful to be here, Don. Thank you for having me today. My mother always said that my father wore black because it hid the dirt.

GONYEA: (Laughter) OK. And, of course, there's a great song that explains it all, but these alternative answers are pretty fantastic.

CARTER CASH: Just as much the truth as anything.

GONYEA: So we know the Cash Carters are a musically talented, legendary5 family, but how is the cooking? Tell us why you decided6 to compile these recipes in a family cookbook.

CARTER CASH: Well, heartfelt family recipes that were handed down through the years, Southern recipes were common fare around the house. But, I mean, I grew up with great diversity in food because we traveled so much. And so, you know, we were in Germany, or we were in Australia, or we were in exotic places - France. Who knows? And so the foods that we had were just as varied7 as the places we traveled to. And, you know, the foods around the house were no less diverse than what we found on the road.

GONYEA: So it sounds like these recipes together, putting them all in one place, kind of give you and give us a sense of your family's history. Your dad, for example, was in the service. And there are recipes that represent that time in his life.

CARTER CASH: Yes. Yes, most certainly. And, you know, I mean, he always tended to enjoy most of all the comfort foods, the things that he ate when he was a little boy - you know, the Sunday afternoon fried chicken, the country dishes that reminded him of home. But he would probably just as soon eaten fresh roasted peanuts as he would of anything. My mother had a very diverse palate, and she liked fine foods and whatnot. You know, and she taught me how to cook. But my father taught me how to cook from the fried bologna to a really good Texas-style chili8. He had quite a hand in the kitchen.

GONYEA: So these recipes come from both sides of the family, including from your grandmother, Maybelle Carter. A lot of people know her as Mother Maybelle Carter, the queen of country music, I think, one of the founding figures of American country music. Can you tell us something that you've taken from her that's in this book?

CARTER CASH: The first recipe from her and here is half-sour pickles9, or sour pickles, depending on how long you ferment10 them. But she traveled in the 30s to New York City. And I remember her telling me when I was a boy that she learned how to make pickles in New York trying to copy how they were made in the delis of New York City. And, you know, she went to Mexico. And I remember, you know, eating different foods at her house from around the world. But there was always this tie-in with Southern flavor, you know, around my house.

And, you know, a lot of southern cooking, it's like people go - come to Nashville where I live, and they say, what's a great Southern restaurant? Well, you got to know the right grandmother because there's a lot of magic. You know, there's a lot of magic to good Southern cooking. And so my cookbook is laid out as a matter of cooking theory, if you will, in some ways because, yes, there is a recipe that you can use as a guideline, but I support and endorse11 the idea that the cook needs to develop their own flair12 and their own unique touch to make something beautiful of their own creation.

GONYEA: Give me an example of how your mom, June Carter, or your dad, Johnny Cash, would have used that kind of personal flair when working with a recipe.

CARTER CASH: Well, my dad, he made what he called his iron pot chili. And he made it with cuts of sirloin or venison if it was around and slow cook it for hours upon hours. And then he would go by the chili pot with a handful of corn meal in his hand. And I remember seeing this so many times when I was a boy that he would throw the corn meal at the pot. And, you know, and if - you know, you didn't know how much was going to get into one pot of chili to the next, but however much it was, that was the specific texture13 and thickness of that chili, you know. So there was a whimsical nature to some of their creations. My mother did a fried vegetable dish called stuff.

GONYEA: Stuff, just stuff, S-T-U-F-F?

CARTER CASH: Yeah. S-T-U-F-F. June Carter's stuff. And that really makes me think about my mom.

GONYEA: And what was in the stuff?

CARTER CASH: It's fried potatoes and carrots. And then you add bell peppers and mushrooms and other vegetables - softer vegetables. And then at the end, you add onion. And then you steam the dish with hot pepper cheese on the top, and it melts down through the dish. It's delicious. It's wonderful. And my goodness, I'm getting hungry.


GONYEA: John Carter Cash is a record producer, the son of Johnny Cash and June Carter, and now, cookbook author. His book, "The Carter Cash Family Cookbook," is out now. Thanks, John.

CARTER CASH: Thank you so much, Don, for having me. And I hope all the listeners out there enjoy the flavors of my family's kitchen.


CASH: (Singing) I fell into a burning ring of fire. I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher. And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire, the ring of fire.


1 distinctive Es5xr     
  • She has a very distinctive way of walking.她走路的样子与别人很不相同。
  • This bird has several distinctive features.这个鸟具有几种突出的特征。
2 flipping b69cb8e0c44ab7550c47eaf7c01557e4     
  • I hate this flipping hotel! 我讨厌这个该死的旅馆!
  • Don't go flipping your lid. 别发火。
3 gravy Przzt1     
  • You have spilled gravy on the tablecloth.你把肉汁泼到台布上了。
  • The meat was swimming in gravy.肉泡在浓汁之中。
4 hardy EenxM     
  • The kind of plant is a hardy annual.这种植物是耐寒的一年生植物。
  • He is a hardy person.他是一个能吃苦耐劳的人。
5 legendary u1Vxg     
  • Legendary stories are passed down from parents to children.传奇故事是由父母传给孩子们的。
  • Odysseus was a legendary Greek hero.奥狄修斯是传说中的希腊英雄。
6 decided lvqzZd     
  • This gave them a decided advantage over their opponents.这使他们比对手具有明显的优势。
  • There is a decided difference between British and Chinese way of greeting.英国人和中国人打招呼的方式有很明显的区别。
7 varied giIw9     
  • The forms of art are many and varied.艺术的形式是多种多样的。
  • The hotel has a varied programme of nightly entertainment.宾馆有各种晚间娱乐活动。
8 chili JOlzm     
  • He helped himself to another two small spoonfuls of chili oil.他自己下手又加了两小勺辣椒油。
  • It has chocolate,chili,and other spices.有巧克力粉,辣椒,和其他的调味品。
9 pickles fd03204cfdc557b0f0d134773ae6fff5     
n.腌菜( pickle的名词复数 );处于困境;遇到麻烦;菜酱
  • Most people eat pickles at breakfast. 大多数人早餐吃腌菜。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • I want their pickles and wines, and that.' 我要他们的泡菜、美酒和所有其他东西。” 来自英汉文学 - 金银岛
10 ferment lgQzt     
  • Fruit juices ferment if they are kept a long time.果汁若是放置很久,就会发酵。
  • The sixties were a time of theological ferment.六十年代是神学上骚动的时代。
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  • No one is foolish enough to endorse it.没有哪个人会傻得赞成它。
  • I fully endorse your opinions on this subject.我完全拥护你对此课题的主张。
12 flair 87jyQ     
  • His business skill complements her flair for design.他的经营技巧和她的设计才能相辅相成。
  • He had a natural flair for business.他有做生意的天分。
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  • We could feel the smooth texture of silk.我们能感觉出丝绸的光滑质地。
  • Her skin has a fine texture.她的皮肤细腻。
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