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pbs高端访谈:女性在“原子城”的绝密任务

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   GWEN IFILL:Finally tonight, the tale of a top-secret town with a top-secret mission and the women who made history there.

  Ray Suarez has our book conversation.
  RAY SUAREZ:During the mid-1940s, thousands of young women got offers of good-paying jobs working on some sort of government project in the South. They were told their efforts would lead to a quicker end to World War II, but they were told little else.
  They worked as secretaries and nurses, chemists and technicians, all the while not knowing the real purpose of their jobs: to enrich fuel for the first atomic bomb ever used in combat.
  Denise Kiernan tells their story in the book "The Girls of Atomic City: The Untold1 Story of the Women Who Helped Win World War II." She's a journalist who has written extensive about American history, and joins us now.
  Untold story, all right. I mean, whether it's Albert Einstein or Leo Szilard or Edward Teller2 or Robert Oppenheimer, even Harry3 Truman, this has been a man's story all along.
  DENISE KIERNAN,Author, "The Girls of Atomic City: The Untold Story of the Women Who Helped Win World War II": It really has.
  And it's also a story that's often told from the top down, from the position of knowing and decision-making down, as opposed to from the perspective of people who were crucial and invaluable4 to the success of the project, but didn't necessarily have any idea what the larger picture was.
  RAY SUAREZ:Again and again, I had to remind myself while reading this book how circumscribed5 the lives of women were in 1943. You're reading it with your 2013 head. And then you have to remember, oh, yes, they couldn't do this. They couldn't do that in so many cases.
  DENISE KIERNAN:In so many cases.
  And at—in one respect, it was such a time of liberation for women, World War II, because so many men were away fighting. Opportunities opened up for them that had never existed before, to work in plants, to work with farm machinery6, to work as welders7. But, at the same time, you know, for example, Jane, one of the women I profile in the book, this was a very bright young woman who wanted to study engineering and was -- you know, just got a tap on the shoulder when she went to go matriculate at the University of Tennessee and was told, no, I'm sorry. You—girls don't study that.
  But then she went on to be a statistician for the Manhattan Project. So, it was limiting and expanding at once, almost.
  RAY SUAREZ:Cumulatively, your women give us a portrait of womanhood in America in 1943, some educated, some not, some rural, some urban, some of immigrant stock, some of longtime American stock.
  It was really—the crowd you put together gave us a chance to look into all these different lives.
  DENISE KIERNAN:And that was something that I really worked to do because I interviewed so many women.
  And I, of course, interviewed a number of men as well who had lived and worked in Oak Ridge8, Tenn., during World War II. And I did want to have as many perspectives as possible on this story. So, yes, some of the women are 18-year-olds with just a high school education recruited out of diners in Murfreesboro, Tenn. Others are, you know, nurses from Chicago, you know, with a certain amount of education.
  And, you know, another is a chemist, you know, with a degree from the University of North Carolina. So I wanted to be able to show all of those perspectives and enter the story of the Manhattan Project from all those different points of view.
  RAY SUAREZ:We are reminded again and again how peculiar9 this was, to bring together thousands of people from all over the place to a place that really didn't even exist yet.
  It was like mushrooms coming up after spring rain. A city just comes out of the mud, all strangers to each other. But they couldn't talk to each other about what they were doing.
  DENISE KIERNAN:Mm-hmm.
  This was not a town that was designated or repurposed for the war effort. This was a town that didn't exist before the war. And they bring in all of these people. It started in 1942. The government thought, oh, we will probably have—let's plan for about 13,000.
  Well, by mid-1945, less than two years later, a town with 75,000 residents, operating 24 hours a day, using more electricity than New York City, and with one of the 10 largest bus systems in the entire country, and it's not on a map. And, yes, you have all these people there together in this confined space spending all this time together, but the most natural question, "Well, what do you do?" is the one thing you're never supposed to ask.
  So, "Where are you from?" was sort of the cadence10 you would hear everywhere, because that was safe. "So, where are you from?"
  RAY SUAREZ:They were pioneering ways of refining radioactive material, weren't they?
  DENISE KIERNAN:Yes.
  The machines that they used to enrich uranium or separate different isotopes11 of uranium really had just been created just recently and had never been done anywhere near on this scale. So it was a completely—just a really completely brand-new endeavor.
  RAY SUAREZ:They don't find out until the end what they were doing, when the bomb is actually detonated.
  But did this experience change the life trajectories12 of these women? Did they go on to have different 1950s, 1960s, 1970s than they might have otherwise because they were in Oak Ridge?
  DENISE KIERNAN:That's a very—that's a very interesting question.
  One of the things that did happen to a lot of them is, you know, we were talking about before having all those people in such a confined space. A lot of people ended up married. So some women shifted over to being housewives. Others stayed in the plants working as chemists. One was—became a librarian for one of the plants. And she probably would have had a future as—you know, still working at that diner in Tennessee.
  The young coal miner's daughter from Shenandoah always thought she would just be a secretary who got married and stayed in her hometown. And she saw a much greater part of the world because of that. So, a variety of opportunities, and perhaps what was most surprising for them was that this town that really didn't have any post-war plan, for many of them became home for now going on 70 years.
  RAY SUAREZ:If you were a young adult in the mid-'40s, you're, what, in your 90s now? Just like World War II veterans who are disappearing from among us, are the girls of Atomic City also harder to find than they were just a short time ago?
  DENISE KIERNAN:They are even just in the last several years.
  And the window on this world—and, by that, I mean our access to this moment in time via the experiences and conversations we can have to people who actually lived through it—is shrinking so rapidly. The youngest of my girls right now is about 88 years old. And others are 94 and 96.
  So there really is a limited amount of time, and decreasing every month the number of people we have that we can talk to about these experiences.
  RAY SUAREZ:"The Girls of Atomic City: The Untold Story of the Women Who Helped Win World War II."
  Denise Kiernan, thanks.
  DENISE KIERNAN:Thank you very much.

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1 untold ljhw1     
adj.数不清的,无数的
参考例句:
  • She has done untold damage to our chances.她给我们的机遇造成了不可估量的损害。
  • They suffered untold terrors in the dark and huddled together for comfort.他们遭受着黑暗中的难以言传的种种恐怖,因而只好挤在一堆互相壮胆。
2 teller yggzeP     
n.银行出纳员;(选举)计票员
参考例句:
  • The bank started her as a teller.银行起用她当出纳员。
  • The teller tried to remain aloof and calm.出纳员力图保持冷漠和镇静。
3 harry heBxS     
vt.掠夺,蹂躏,使苦恼
参考例句:
  • Today,people feel more hurried and harried.今天,人们感到更加忙碌和苦恼。
  • Obama harried business by Healthcare Reform plan.奥巴马用医改掠夺了商界。
4 invaluable s4qxe     
adj.无价的,非常宝贵的,极为贵重的
参考例句:
  • A computer would have been invaluable for this job.一台计算机对这个工作的作用会是无法估计的。
  • This information was invaluable to him.这个消息对他来说是非常宝贵的。
5 circumscribed 7cc1126626aa8a394fa1a92f8e05484a     
adj.[医]局限的:受限制或限于有限空间的v.在…周围划线( circumscribe的过去式和过去分词 );划定…范围;限制;限定
参考例句:
  • The power of the monarchy was circumscribed by the new law. 君主统治的权力受到了新法律的制约。
  • His activities have been severely circumscribed since his illness. 自生病以来他的行动一直受到严格的限制。 来自《简明英汉词典》
6 machinery CAdxb     
n.(总称)机械,机器;机构
参考例句:
  • Has the machinery been put up ready for the broadcast?广播器材安装完毕了吗?
  • Machinery ought to be well maintained all the time.机器应该随时注意维护。
7 welders d9dab32dff21318a0fe839e305df0189     
n.焊接工( welder的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • Fifty welders were declared redundant. 已公布削减五十名焊工。 来自辞典例句
  • Arcs more readily than AC welders, with longer arcing. 起弧比交流电容易,电弧加长一倍。 来自互联网
8 ridge KDvyh     
n.山脊;鼻梁;分水岭
参考例句:
  • We clambered up the hillside to the ridge above.我们沿着山坡费力地爬上了山脊。
  • The infantry were advancing to attack the ridge.步兵部队正在向前挺进攻打山脊。
9 peculiar cinyo     
adj.古怪的,异常的;特殊的,特有的
参考例句:
  • He walks in a peculiar fashion.他走路的样子很奇特。
  • He looked at me with a very peculiar expression.他用一种很奇怪的表情看着我。
10 cadence bccyi     
n.(说话声调的)抑扬顿挫
参考例句:
  • He delivered his words in slow,measured cadences.他讲话缓慢而抑扬顿挫、把握有度。
  • He liked the relaxed cadence of his retired life.他喜欢退休生活的悠闲的节奏。
11 isotopes 92848c3160703e48dc3b552ac6f54115     
n.同位素;同位素( isotope的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • the many isotopes of carbon 碳的诸多同位素
  • Tritium is one of the mildest radioactive isotopes. 氚是最和缓的放射性同位素之一。 来自《简明英汉词典》
12 trajectories 5c5d2685e0c45bbfa4a80b6d43c087fa     
n.弹道( trajectory的名词复数 );轨道;轨线;常角轨道
参考例句:
  • To answer this question, we need to plot trajectories of principal stresses. 为了回答这个问题,我们尚须画出主应力迹线图。 来自辞典例句
  • In the space program the theory is used to determine spaceship trajectories. 在空间计划中,这个理论用于确定飞船的轨道。 来自辞典例句
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