[00:00]J：Oh, no, no, that's unfair. We should certainly trade off in terms of giving and receiving.
[00:05]H：Look, Jess, let's not put the cart before the horse here with all the high-tech stuff, you know, 'cause
[00:10]we don't need any of that.
[00:12]J：We don't?
[00:16]H：I myself have always preferred the standard, old-fashioned way.