PBS高端访谈:民主党罕见的一幕（在线收听）

JUDY WOODRUFF: As the impeachment trial is set to start this next phase, we do not want to lose focus on the race for the White House. We are today exactly one year from the next president's inauguration and just two weeks from the Iowa caucuses. But, as Amna Nawaz reports, in South Carolina today, a show of unity among the Democratic contenders hides deeper divisions on the trail.

AMNA NAWAZ: A rare sight on the 2020 Democratic campaign trail, the presidential candidates all linking arms and shaking hands to honor the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. After a weeklong feud about electability, progressive Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders appeared to reconcile, even as Sanders' critics said he dismissed sexism in politics.

QUESTION: Do you think that gender is still an obstacle for female politicians?

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), Presidential Candidate: The answer is yes. But I think everybody has their own sets of problems. I'm 78 years of age. That's a problem.

AMNA NAWAZ: Warren, when pressed by reporters, didn't take the bait.

SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA), Presidential Candidate: I have no further comment on this. I have been friends with Bernie for a long time. We work together on many, many issues, and I have said all I'm going to say.

AMNA NAWAZ: The progressive cease-fire comes as a new fight brews, this time between Sanders and former Vice President Joe Biden.

QUESTION: What is your stance on Social Security?

AMNA NAWAZ: Biden on defense in Iowa after a deceptively edited video circulated on Twitter by a senior Sanders campaign adviser appeared to show Biden praising entitlement cuts.

JOSEPH BIDEN (D), Presidential Candidate: Paul Ryan was correct. When he did the tax code, what's the first thing he decided we had to go after? Social Security and Medicare.

AMNA NAWAZ: The full 2018 speech shows Biden was actually mocking Ryan, then the speaker of the House. On Saturday, Biden accused the Sanders campaign of misleading voters.

JOSEPH BIDEN: I have been a gigantic supporter of Social Security from the beginning. It's a flat lie. They have acknowledged that this is a doctored tape. And I think it's beneath and I'm looking for his campaign to come forward and disown it.

AMNA NAWAZ: But Sanders didn't back down from the attack.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: That's not true. And I think all of the media who has looked at it, it was not doctored. It was what it is.

AMNA NAWAZ: And suggested Biden was the one not being truthful.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: On the issue of Social Security, time and time again, Joe Biden has been clear in supporting cuts to Social Security.

AMNA NAWAZ: In this final push before the Iowa caucuses, other candidates urged Democrats to stay united. Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg said the focus should be on beating Donald Trump.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (D), Presidential Candidate: I know that the heat of competition will, I'm sure, continue to have all kinds of effects as we go into the final days before the caucuses and beyond, but, hopefully, we can also keep our eye on the bigger picture.

AMNA NAWAZ: Billionaire Tom Steyer agreed.

TOM STEYER (D), Presidential Candidate: This is going to be everyone getting together and making this happen together, or it is not going to happen.

AMNA NAWAZ: With just two weeks before the crucial first-in-the-nation contest, over half of Iowans remain undecided or open to changing their minds about a candidate. Even The New York Times editorial board was split on their endorsement. They backed both Warren and Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar on Sunday, declaring "May the best woman win". For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Amna Nawaz.

朱迪·伍德拉夫：弹劾审判现在即将进入下一阶段，我们也不能错过总统竞选的事儿。距离下一任总统就职还有1年的时间，而距离爱荷华州投票只有2周的时间了。不过，根据阿姆纳·纳瓦兹今天从南卡州发回的报道，民主党竞选者们看似团结，但裂痕却很深。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：2020年民主党候选人在竞选期间出现了罕见的一幕——他们互相挽着胳膊，彼此握手，纪念马丁·路德·金留下的宝贵财富。关于选举的事情，候选人们之间已经有了长达一周的不和情绪，激进风格的参议员伊丽莎白·沃伦和伯尼·桑德斯似乎有所和解，即便桑德斯的批评家们说桑德斯无视政坛存在的性别歧视。

问：你认为性别还是女性政治家的一个阻碍吗？

参议员伯尼·桑德斯，总统候选人：答案是肯定的，但我认为所有人都有自己的弱势。我今年78岁了，这是我的弱势。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：沃伦在记者的不断施压下也没有上钩。

参议员伊丽莎白·沃伦，总统候选人：对此，我无可奉告。伯尼和我是上时间的朋友。我们在很多问题上有过合作，我能说的，我之前都已经说过了。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：停火的同时也有一场新的争端在酝酿，这一次是在桑德斯和前副总统乔·拜登之间。

问：你对社保的立场是什么？

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：拜登现在在爱荷华州是防御状态，因为之前一则经过迷惑性剪辑的视频在推特上疯传，视频里的拜登似乎夸赞了津贴削减的事情。

乔·拜登，总统候选人：保罗·莱恩是对的。他当初做免税代码的时候，他决定我们必须要做的第一件事是什么？社保与国家老年人医疗保险制度。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：2018年所有的演讲里，拜登都在嘲弄莱恩，那时候莱恩是众议院议长。周六，拜登指责桑德斯迷惑选民。

乔·拜登：我从一开始就大力支持社会保障。这就是个谎言，这是经过恶意剪辑的。我觉得这下面有问题——我期待通过他未来的选举来证明我与此无关。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：但桑德斯对于这样的攻击也没有退缩。

伯尼·桑德斯：拜登说的不是真的。我觉得所有看过视频的媒体都知道这视频不是剪辑的，而是原原本本的样子。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：桑德斯说是拜登在撒谎。

伯尼·桑德斯：在社会保障的问题上，拜登已经多次表明他支持社会保障的津贴削减。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：在为爱荷华州投票冲刺的阶段里，其他候选人敦促民主党人保持团结。前印第安纳州南本德市市长皮特表示，关注的点应该放在打败特朗普上。

皮特，总统候选人：我知道、我也确信竞争的热度会持续在冲刺阶段和未来产生各种影响。但我希望我们呢也能有大局观。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：亿万富翁汤姆·斯太尔同意这个说法。

汤姆·斯太尔，总统候选人：这件事需要所有人众志成城，否则就无法实现。

阿姆纳·纳瓦兹：现在距离关键性的全国第一个州的投票还有2周时间，有半数以上的爱荷华民众依然没有决定，可能随时改变对候选人的观点。即便是《纽约时报》的社论板块也意见分化。他们支持沃伦，也支持明尼苏达州参议员艾米·克罗布彻，他们说“希望最棒的那位女性获胜”。以上是阿姆纳·纳瓦兹发回的《新闻一小时》。