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Skywalker, The Joker, Now Chucky: Mark Hamill Takes On Another Iconic Character

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

You know Mark Hamill as the greatest Jedi the galaxy¹ has ever known.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "STAR WARS: EPISODE IV - A NEW HOPE")

MARK HAMILL: (As Luke Skywalker) I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you.

CARRIE FISHER: (As Princess Leia Organa) You're who?

HAMILL: (As Luke Skywalker) I'm here to rescue you. I've got your R2 unit. I'm here with Ben Kenobi.

FISHER: (As Princess Leia Organa) Ben Kenobi? Where is he?

HAMILL: (As Luke Skywalker) Come on.

MARTIN: Luke - a beacon² of hope and light, a force for good. But Mark Hamill has ventured into the dark side.

(SOUNDBITE OF DANNY ELFMAN'S "'BATMAN: THE ANIMATED³ SERIES' THEME")

MARTIN: He was also the voice behind this guy.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES")

HAMILL: (As The Joker) Justice is served hot, Batman. You're going to melt just like a grilled⁴ cheese sandwich (laughter).

MARTIN: Hamill voiced the Joker in the TV show "Batman: The Animated Series." Outside of "Star Wars," Mark Hamill has made a career out of voice acting⁵. His latest role - a red-headed doll from a 1988 horror classic, Chucky, in the new movie "Child's Play."

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "CHILD'S PLAY")

HAMILL: (As Chucky) Over here, Andy (laughter).

GABRIEL BATEMAN: (As Andy) Leave me alone.

HAMILL: (As Chucky) Over here. Peekabo.

MARTIN: Our co-host and lifelong "Star Wars" fan, David Greene, stopped by Mark Hamill's home in Malibu to talk about his many voices.

DAVID GREENE, HOST:

Well, so are you excited to play a homicidal, deranged⁶ doll?

HAMILL: (Laughter) Well, "Child's Play" and Chucky, in particular, has just become part of the fabric⁷ of pop culture.

GREENE: Yeah, I'd say so.

HAMILL: I loved the original. And I remember thinking at the time, it took them 25 years to make a movie out of what was originally a "Twilight⁸ Zone" episode. It was called "Living Doll." Telly Savalas played this abusive father - stepfather to - so you know he's bad already. Had a daughter who got a Talky Tina doll.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "THE TWILIGHT ZONE")

JUNE FORAY: (As Talky Tina) My name is Talky Tina, and I love you very much.

TELLY SAVALAS: (As Erich Streator) Will you shut that thing off?

HAMILL: When she's alone with the father, who hates the doll and hates that - you know, he's just miserable⁹ guy. I'm Talky Tina, and I'm going to kill you.

GREENE: (Laughter).

HAMILL: In that sweet voice. Part of it is, you can sort of step out of yourself and realize how ludicrous the whole thing is. I mean, come on (laughter), a doll with a big knife. It's...

GREENE: Still scary.

HAMILL: Well, I mean, the idea of a toy being an evil force is fascinating, you see.

GREENE: Why? Why does that fascinate you?

HAMILL: You know, because - I mean, I don't know. It's like, why are clowns scary to some people? They're just such a part of your childhood. And you know, alone at night, when you're trying to go to sleep and it's on the shelf staring at you with this grin on its face.

GREENE: I had that; E.T. was mine.

HAMILL: OK.

GREENE: Sat on my bed stand, and I would have nightmares about it. Like...

HAMILL: Of course. Children have imaginations, and they run wild.

GREENE: So this is what people call voice acting.

HAMILL: Right.

GREENE: But I know some people say, why say voice? Like, this is acting.

HAMILL: Yeah. Well, I - exactly.

GREENE: What's the difference?

HAMILL: There is no difference. I mean, to a certain extent, there might be a technical difference in that you're liberated¹⁰ to make choices that you would never make on camera.

GREENE: Like what? What's an example of that?

HAMILL: Well, I'd never seen myself do The Joker on camera, and I was appalled¹¹ (laughter). I mean, I'm - ugh, you know, pulling my hair out. And I mean, it's grotesque¹².

GREENE: So what you're doing when you're voicing this stuff, it's like you normally wouldn't want anyone to actually see that.

HAMILL: Of course not.

GREENE: What's going - what are you doing when you're...

HAMILL: In those days, I stood up because I wanted to be able to use my body because it comes through your voice if you're shaking your fist or whatever you're doing. But the actors in voice-over are some of the best I've ever worked with onscreen, on television, on Broadway, off Broadway, where - I mean, they're just incredibly talented. And not only that, a lot of them have come from the world of stand-up comedy or improv - you know, Second City, Groundlings, Upright Citizens Brigade. So they're so versatile¹³.

GREENE: What got you into this? Like, I mean, I know you had a lot of siblings¹⁴.

HAMILL: Yeah.

GREENE: Like, did you act stuff out when you were a kid?

HAMILL: I'll tell you, a pivotal moment was watching a "Walt Disney Presents" show where they - you know, Disney was very good about pulling back the curtain on how movies were made. And then there was a show where they showed how they made an animated cartoon. And then they showed Clarence Nash, this guy in a suit and a microphone doing Donald Duck. I must have been 5 or 6, and a lightbulb went off in my head. I don't know what I thought. I mean, it suddenly occurred to me - somebody gets up in the morning, goes to work and does Donald Duck for his job. I want that job.

(LAUGHTER)

HAMILL: And I was so interested in voices that I got - I had a little tape recorder my father gave me for my birthday. And I would record, like, Dracula and the Frankenstein films because I was interested in their accents, like - listen to them, the children of the night, what music they make. I said to my father, where's that guy from? Why does he talk like - I don't know. He's Dracula. He's from Dracula land. Do your homework.

GREENE: Would you study the tapes after you recorded them?

HAMILL: Yeah, I'd listen back, and I'd try and imitate them. I mean, I was a weird¹⁵ kid. What other 9-year-old says things - let me make this perfectly¹⁶ clear. They go, yes, that's a good Richard Nixon. Go do your homework. You sense a theme here?

GREENE: (Laughter) Well, I'm conscious of your time. I am - before I let you go, I just - I have to tell you how surreal this is. I mean, I went to see "Empire" with my father when I was 4 years old.

HAMILL: There you are.

GREENE: And it's been - and shared a love...

HAMILL: Four? That's awfully¹⁷ young.

GREENE: I mean, I didn't remember it. I mean, he took me...

HAMILL: Oh, yeah. Well, that's pretty startling. I love that.

GREENE: I mean, I'd play it in my living room, pretending to be you, Luke (laughter). So it's...

HAMILL: I never tire...

GREENE: You probably get this a lot, but...

HAMILL: No, but I never tire of hearing these stories because people relate it to their own life. See? You related it to your father taking you to the movies.

GREENE: Oh, yeah.

HAMILL: People come up and say, this got me through my mother's illness. This is where I met my husband online, waiting to get tickets. You know, parents tell their kids, don't talk to strangers. And then when you become known all around, it's like the whole world is your friend. And they all - like I say - they all tell me what it meant to them, how it's inspired them. And I never get bored with it. It's astonishing to me and sometimes really moving to hear how it affected¹⁸ their lives.

(SOUNDBITE OF JOHN WILLIAMS' "THE REBEL FLEET/END TITLE (MEDLEY)")

GREENE: Mark Hamill, thank you so much.

HAMILL: My pleasure.

MARTIN: That's our co-host David Greene talking with Mark Hamill. He voices Chucky in the new movie "Child's Play."

(SOUNDBITE OF JOHN WILLIAMS' "THE REBEL FLEET/END TITLE (MEDLEY)")

1 galaxy   

n.星系；银河系；一群(杰出或著名的人物)

参考例句：

• The earth is one of the planets in the Galaxy.地球是银河系中的星球之一。
• The company has a galaxy of talent.该公司拥有一批优秀的人才。

2 beacon   

n.烽火，（警告用的）闪火灯，灯塔

参考例句：

• The blink of beacon could be seen for miles.灯塔的光亮在数英里之外都能看见。
• The only light over the deep black sea was the blink shone from the beacon.黑黢黢的海面上唯一的光明就只有灯塔上闪现的亮光了。

3 animated   

adj.生气勃勃的，活跃的，愉快的

参考例句：

• His observations gave rise to an animated and lively discussion.他的言论引起了一场气氛热烈而活跃的讨论。
• We had an animated discussion over current events last evening.昨天晚上我们热烈地讨论时事。

4 grilled   

adj. 烤的, 炙过的, 有格子的 动词grill的过去式和过去分词形式

参考例句：

• He was grilled for two hours before the police let him go. 他被严厉盘查了两个小时后，警察才放他走。
• He was grilled until he confessed. 他被严加拷问，直到他承认为止。

5 acting   

n.演戏，行为，假装；adj.代理的，临时的，演出用的

参考例句：

• Ignore her,she's just acting.别理她，她只是假装的。
• During the seventies,her acting career was in eclipse.在七十年代，她的表演生涯黯然失色。

6 deranged   

adj.疯狂的

参考例句：

• Traffic was stopped by a deranged man shouting at the sky.一名狂叫的疯子阻塞了交通。
• A deranged man shot and killed 14 people.一个精神失常的男子开枪打死了14人。

7 fabric   

n.织物，织品，布；构造，结构，组织

参考例句：

• The fabric will spot easily.这种织品很容易玷污。
• I don't like the pattern on the fabric.我不喜欢那块布料上的图案。

8 twilight   

n.暮光，黄昏；暮年，晚期，衰落时期

参考例句：

• Twilight merged into darkness.夕阳的光辉融于黑暗中。
• Twilight was sweet with the smell of lilac and freshly turned earth.薄暮充满紫丁香和新翻耕的泥土的香味。

9 miserable   

adj.悲惨的，痛苦的；可怜的，糟糕的

参考例句：

• It was miserable of you to make fun of him.你取笑他，这是可耻的。
• Her past life was miserable.她过去的生活很苦。

10 liberated   

a.无拘束的，放纵的

参考例句：

• The city was liberated by the advancing army. 军队向前挺进，解放了那座城市。
• The heat brings about a chemical reaction, and oxygen is liberated. 热量引起化学反应，释放出氧气。

11 appalled   

v.使惊骇，使充满恐惧( appall的过去式和过去分词)adj.惊骇的；丧胆的

参考例句：

• The brutality of the crime has appalled the public. 罪行之残暴使公众大为震惊。
• They were appalled by the reports of the nuclear war. 他们被核战争的报道吓坏了。 来自《简明英汉词典》

12 grotesque   

adj.怪诞的，丑陋的；n.怪诞的图案，怪人（物）

参考例句：

• His face has a grotesque appearance.他的面部表情十分怪。
• Her account of the incident was a grotesque distortion of the truth.她对这件事的陈述是荒诞地歪曲了事实。

13 versatile   

adj.通用的，万用的；多才多艺的，多方面的

参考例句：

• A versatile person is often good at a number of different things.多才多艺的人通常擅长许多种不同的事情。
• He had been one of the game's most versatile athletes.他是这项运动中技术最全面的运动员之一。

14 siblings   

n.兄弟，姐妹( sibling的名词复数 )

参考例句：

• A triplet sleeps amongst its two siblings. 一个三胞胎睡在其两个同胞之间。 来自《简明英汉词典》
• She has no way of tracking the donor or her half-siblings down. 她没办法找到那个捐精者或她的兄弟姐妹。 来自时文部分

15 weird   

adj.古怪的，离奇的；怪诞的，神秘而可怕的

参考例句：

• From his weird behaviour,he seems a bit of an oddity.从他不寻常的行为看来，他好像有点怪。
• His weird clothes really gas me.他的怪衣裳简直笑死人。

16 perfectly   

adv.完美地，无可非议地，彻底地

参考例句：

• The witnesses were each perfectly certain of what they said.证人们个个对自己所说的话十分肯定。
• Everything that we're doing is all perfectly above board.我们做的每件事情都是光明正大的。

17 awfully   

adv.可怕地，非常地，极端地

参考例句：

• Agriculture was awfully neglected in the past.过去农业遭到严重忽视。
• I've been feeling awfully bad about it.对这我一直感到很难受。

18 affected   

adj.不自然的，假装的

参考例句：

• She showed an affected interest in our subject.她假装对我们的课题感到兴趣。
• His manners are affected.他的态度不自然。