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Just before President Trump hosted Russia's foreign minister at the White House today, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a warning.

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MIKE POMPEO: I made our expectations of Russia clear. The Trump administration will always work to protect the integrity of our elections, period. Should Russia or any foreign actor take steps to undermine our democratic processes, we will take action in response.

CORNISH: Russia's foreign minister used the occasion to once again deny that his country meddled in the 2016 vote. NPR's Michele Kelemen joins us now from the State Department, and Michele, to start, was there anything new from Russians in terms of these specific allegations of interference?

MICHELE KELEMEN, BYLINE: Not really. I mean, what we heard was a very lengthy denial by Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov. Let's take a listen.

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SERGEY LAVROV: (Speaking Russian).

KELEMEN: So what he's saying is that joint work has been hindered by what he calls this wave of suspicions about Russia. He said there are no facts to back up those allegations, and he called on the U.S. to release the communications that Russia had with the Obama administration at the time.

CORNISH: What did Secretary Pompeo say in response to all this?

KELEMEN: Well, he didn't make any promises about that, but he would only say this.

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POMPEO: We think we shared plenty of facts to show what happened in the 2016 election with our Russian counterparts. We don't think there's any mistake about what really transpired there.

KELEMEN: And President Trump, who's been skeptical of the findings of the U.S. intelligence community, had a meeting — a private meeting afterwards with Sergey Lavrov. The White House said that he also warned Russia in that private meeting not to interfere in U.S. elections.

CORNISH: And the backdrop to this, of course — House Democrats announcing articles of impeachment against President Trump, including obstruction of Congress. How did Pompeo talk about that today, if at all?

KELEMEN: Well, he said that, you know, he has complied with all the legal requirements. He points out that a number of State Department officials did testify under oath, though his department has not complied with congressional subpoenas for documents. And that's about all he would say on the topic. It's a subject that he tends to avoid, but Ukraine did come up more broadly. Pompeo repeated that it's U.S. policy not to recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea and to push Russia to end the war in eastern Ukraine. Those were also topics that came up in the White House meeting.

CORNISH: Another topic — arms control. Is that something that came up today, the relationship between U.S. and Russia on that front?

KELEMEN: Yeah. Russia is offering to extend what's called the New START agreement. It expires in 2021, and arms control experts say without that, the world's two largest nuclear arsenals will not be under any limits for the first time since 1972. So they really want to see the Trump administration accept this Russian proposal to extend the treaty. Pompeo, though, wants the agreement to be more expansive. He wants it to include China as well. The problem is they haven't started those negotiations. The Russians say that China isn't interested, and the clock's ticking.

CORNISH: The Trump administration talks a lot about getting U.S. prisoners home. I know there's a high-profile case in Russia now. Did either Lavrov or Pompeo address that?

KELEMEN: Yeah. It's Paul Whelan. He's a former U.S. Marine. Lavrov said Whelan has made arrogant accusations against Russian officials at a prison where he's being held. I asked State Department officials about that, and they say the U.S. has serious concerns about allegations of mistreatment and a lack of evidence in the case.

CORNISH: NPR's Michele Kelemen, thanks so much.

KELEMEN: Thank you.

今天,就在特朗普总统在白宫接见俄罗斯外交部长之前,美国国务卿迈克·蓬佩奥发出了警告。

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迈克·蓬佩奥:我明确表明了我们对俄罗斯的期望。特朗普政府将一直致力于保护我们选举的公正性。如果俄罗斯或任何外国势力采取措施破坏我们的民主进程,我们将采取相应行动。

柯妮什:俄罗斯外交部长则利用这个机会再次否认俄罗斯干涉2016年美国总统大选。NPR新闻的米歇尔·克莱门将从美国国务院和我们连线,米歇尔,第一个问题,就干预美国大选的指控来说,俄罗斯方面有做出新回应吗?

米歇尔·克莱门连线:没有,俄罗斯外交部长谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫发表了冗长的否认声明。下面我们来听一下。

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谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫:(用俄语讲话)。

克莱门:他表示,两国合作因为这种“怀疑俄罗斯的浪潮”而受阻。他说,没有事实支持这些指控,他呼吁美国公布当时俄罗斯与奥巴马政府的沟通记录。

柯妮什:国务卿蓬佩奥作何回应?

克莱门:他并没有做出任何承诺,只说了下面这句话。

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蓬佩奥:我们认为我们已经共享了大量事实,均能说明2016年总统大选期间美国与俄罗斯的来往情况。我们认为那并未揭露任何错误行为。

克莱门:特朗普总统一直对美国情报机构的调查结果持怀疑态度,他在稍后与谢尔盖·拉夫罗夫举行了非公开会议。白宫表示,他在非公开会议中也警告俄罗斯不要干预美国大选。

柯妮什:我们来介绍一下背景,众议院民主党人宣布了弹劾特朗普总统的条款,包括妨碍国会调查。蓬佩奥今天是否有谈及此事?

克莱门:他表示,他遵守了所有法律要求。他指出,多名国务院官员已经宣誓作证,尽管他领导的国务院并没有按照国会传票的要求提交文件。这就是他对这一问题作出的所有回应。这是他试图回避的话题,但乌克兰却被多次提及。蓬佩奥重申了美国的政策,即美国不承认俄罗斯对克里米亚的吞并,他还要求俄罗斯结束在乌克兰东部的战争。这些话题在白宫会谈中也有提及。

柯妮什:另一个话题——军备管控。美国和俄罗斯在这方面的关系今天是否有提及?

克莱门:有。俄罗斯提出延长《新战略武器裁减条约》。该条约将于2021年到期,军备控制专家表示,如果没有这项条约,那将出现自1972年以来世界两大核武库首次不受任何限制的情况。因此,他们非常希望特朗普政府接受俄罗斯延长该条约的提议。不过,蓬佩奥希望扩大这一条约。他想让中国加入条约。但问题是,他们没有开始协商。俄罗斯表示,中国不想加入,而现在时间非常紧迫。

柯妮什:特朗普政府时常提及让美国囚犯回国一事。我知道俄罗斯目前有一起备受关注的案件。拉夫罗夫或蓬佩奥有没有谈到这个问题?

克莱门:对。那起案件与保罗·韦兰有关。他是前美国海军陆战队队员。拉夫罗夫表示,韦兰在监狱中对俄罗斯官员进行了傲慢的指控。我就此询问了国务院官员,他们说美国对该案涉嫌虐待和证据不足的情况表示严重关切。

柯妮什:以上是NPR新闻的米歇尔·克莱门进行的报道,非常谢谢你。

克莱门:谢谢。

  原文地址:http://www.tingroom.com/lesson/npr2019/12/494516.html