美国国家公共电台 NPR 约翰逊解封计划遭批 被称只想抢头条（在线收听）

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says he expects to lift the vast majority of COVID-19 restrictions in England later this month,

英国首相鲍里斯·约翰逊表示，他希望本月晚些时候解除英国绝大多数新冠肺炎限制措施，

even as cases, hospitalizations and deaths are rising with the spread of the Delta variant.

尽管病例、住院和死亡人数在随着德尔塔变种的传播而上升。

Johnson spoke to the country today on national TV.

约翰逊今天在国家电视台对全国发表讲话。

To those who say we should delay again, the alternative to that is to open up in winter, when the virus will have an advantage, or not at all this year.

对于那些认为我们应该再次推迟解封的人，另一种选择是在冬季开放，届时病毒将占上风，或者今年根本不开放。

All right. For more, we turn now to our London correspondent, Frank Langfitt. Hi, Frank.

好。下面我们驻伦敦记者弗兰克·朗菲特将带来详细报道。你好，弗兰克。

Hi, Ailsa.

你好，艾尔莎。

So why does Boris Johnson want to lift nearly all the coronavirus restrictions, especially as the virus is spreading again?

为何鲍里斯·约翰逊要解除几乎所有冠状病毒限制，特别是在病毒再次传播的情况下？

Well, part of the answer, I think, is what you just heard — is his argument is, if not now in the — you know, in the summer, when?

我想，部分答案是你刚才听到的——他的论点是，如果现在不解封——夏季不解封，那等到何时？

And clearly, part of this is an economic argument, and this is something that's guided the prime minister throughout the pandemic.

很明显，这部分是经济论据，而这正是首相在疫情期间的指导思想。

Later on in the press conference, this is what he said.

以下是他之后在记者会上所说。

We have to balance the risks — the risks of the disease, which the vaccines have reduced but very far from eliminated,

我们必须平衡新冠肺炎的风险与继续依法实施强制措施的风险，疫苗虽已减少新冠肺炎的风险，但风险远未消除，

and the risks of continuing with legally enforced restrictions that inevitably take their toll on people's lives and livelihoods.

而限制措施则不可避免地给人们的生活和生计带来损失。

OK. I get the balance of risks, but how is he balancing those risks when key indicators are heading in the wrong direction right now?

好。平衡风险，但当关键指标目前正朝着错误的方向发展时，他是如何平衡这些风险的？

Yeah. So this is his argument. He says, yes, cases are rising.

对。这就是他的论点。他表示，没错，病例正在增加。

And, in fact, they're averaging about 27,000 a day most recently, and they're going to double.

事实上，最近英国平均日增病例约2.7万例，而且还将翻倍。

They're doubling every nine days.

新增病例每九天翻一番。

But he and scientists are arguing that the U.K.'s heavy vaccination rate — half of the United Kingdom's population is already completely vaccinated —

但首相和科学家辩称，英国的高接种率——英国一半人口已完全接种疫苗——

has largely, but they say not completely, broken the link between the disease and hospitalizations and deaths.

虽然没有完全阻断但也在很大程度上阻断了新冠肺炎和住院及死亡之间的联系。

And so here are some figures I think we're thinking about.

以下是一些我认为我们正在考虑的数字。

Even with so many cases right now, only 1,900 people are in the hospital, compared to about 35,000 nationally in the winter.

即使现在有如此多的病例，但住院人数只有1900人，而冬季时英国全国的住院人数约为3.5万人。

And deaths are averaging about 18 a day versus a peak — one day in January over 1,800 deaths.

日均死亡人数约18人，而在峰值时，1月份有一天的死亡人数超过1800人。

Wow. OK, so things are getting better, but what restrictions is Johnson actually lifting?

哇哦。好，情况正在好转，但约翰逊解除了哪些限制措施？

Because the U.K. has gone through various lockdowns, I'm just curious what restrictions are still left in England.

因为英国经历了各种封锁，我只是好奇英格兰还有什么限制措施。

Yeah, there are not actually that many left.

好，实际上限制措施所剩不多。

And I was downtown just a few days ago on Regent Street, and it was almost as crowded as usual in the summer.

几天前我去了伦敦市中心的摄政街，那里和往常的夏季一样拥挤。

The only difference was half the people were wearing masks.

唯一不同的是有一半人戴着口罩。

Now, what Johnson says he's going to allow is all businesses to open. There'll be no limits on numbers in theaters and sporting events.

约翰逊表示，他将允许所有企业开放。剧院和体育赛事的观众人数将不受限制。

And so, for instance, you know, the European Championship semifinals later this week in — at Wembley Stadium, it'll be 75% capacity, but that's still 60,000 people.

举个例子，本周晚些时候在温布利体育场举行的欧洲杯半决赛，容量将达到75%，即6万人。

So, I mean, things have been loosening a lot in recent months.

因此，最近几个月，情况有了很大的松动。

And the most important thing that people are focusing on now is no mandatory requirement to wear a mask indoors.

而现在人们关注的最重要的一点，就是政府没有强制要求在室内佩戴口罩。

And I've got to note one thing — is that this all applies to England.

我要指出一件事，这一切都适用于英格兰。

The prime minister's policies only affect England, which is far and away the largest country of the four nations inside the United Kingdom.

首相的政策只会影响英格兰，英格兰是英国四个部分中最大的。

And local leaders in Scotland, Wales and Ireland — they can make their own decisions about this.

苏格兰、威尔士和爱尔兰的地方领导人可以就限制措施自行做决定。

Right. OK, so what's been the reaction so far politically to Johnson's announcement that he intends to lift almost all these restrictions by the end of the month?

好。约翰逊宣布他计划在本月底之前解除几乎所有限制措施，目前政坛对此有何反应？

Yeah, you're already hearing criticism, which I think is not surprising. Keir Starmer — he's the leader of the opposition Labour Party.

好，批评之声你已经出现，我认为这并不奇怪。凯尔·斯塔莫是反对党工党的领袖。

He says he thinks Johnson is just doing this for headlines and going overboard in removing all the restrictions. And this is how Starmer put it today.

他表示，他认为约翰逊这样做只是为了上头条，约翰逊在解除所有限制方面做得太过火了。以下是斯塔莫今天所说。

Lifting all protections in one go when the infection rate is going up is reckless. A balanced approach — a proper plan — would say keep key protections.

在感染率上升时，一次性解除所有防护措施是鲁莽之举。可以采取平衡的方法或适当的计划，以保持关键的防护。

One of them would be masks in enclosed places and on public transport. That's a common-sense position.

其中一个方法是在封闭场所和公共交通工具上佩戴口罩。这是常识性观点。

And another thing I should say, Ailsa, is that it's not sure this is a done deal. Johnson still seems to be hedging.

艾尔莎，我还应该指出一点，目前这项计划尚未最终确定。约翰逊似乎仍在避险。

He says he expects to do this, but he's not actually going to make a final decision until next Monday.

他说他希望这样做，但实际上他要到下周一才会做出最终决定。

That is NPR's Frank Langfitt in London. Thank you, Frank.

以上是NPR新闻的弗兰克·朗菲特从伦敦带来的报道。谢谢你，弗兰克。

Great to talk, Ailsa.

艾尔莎，很高兴和你连线。